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		<title>Comment on Tipping Point: What happened to &#8216;Tommy&#8217; Harman? Part 1 by Vern Nelson</title>
		<link>http://ocvoice.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/tipping-point-what-happened-to-tommy-harman-part-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 00:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES!  We are talking some quality comments here!  Keep it up!!!!!!!!!!1!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Poseidon&#8217;s Delay: Coastal Commission waits 2 years for desal answers by Ray Walker</title>
		<link>http://ocvoice.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/poseidons-delay-coastal-commission-waits-2-years-for-desal-answers/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>21000 desalination plants in the world produce slightly more than 3,000,000 acre feet per year.  CA has been offered a truly new fresh water Source of 1,000,000 acre feet a year.  Development of the Source will not damage the environment or the water rights of anyone, anywhere !  The old man who has the Source Solution for CA will not live forever....WaterSource waterrdw@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>21000 desalination plants in the world produce slightly more than 3,000,000 acre feet per year.  CA has been offered a truly new fresh water Source of 1,000,000 acre feet a year.  Development of the Source will not damage the environment or the water rights of anyone, anywhere !  The old man who has the Source Solution for CA will not live forever&#8230;.WaterSource <a href="mailto:waterrdw@yahoo.com">waterrdw@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Tipping Point: What happened to &#8216;Tommy&#8217; Harman? Part 1 by Brian</title>
		<link>http://ocvoice.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/tipping-point-what-happened-to-tommy-harman-part-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 17:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vern is a communist, Go Tom!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Poseidon&#8217;s Delay: Coastal Commission waits 2 years for desal answers by CoastWatcher &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Poseidon Means Disaster With Desalination</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoastWatcher &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Poseidon Means Disaster With Desalination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 17:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Note: As John Earl, Editor of the Orange County Voice, shows below, the for profit corporation Poseidon Resources Inc. hasn&#8217;t been honest regarding [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Interview: Dan Kalmick for Congress by Chris Caesar</title>
		<link>http://ocvoice.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/interview-dan-kalmick-for-congress/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Caesar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic interview.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Cooking up Campaign Issues in Surf City by Bill Borden</title>
		<link>http://ocvoice.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/93/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Borden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To state that "President Eisenhower signed a bill that officially adopted the words “In God We Trust” as the national motto. The action was part of a nationwide movement, previously featuring the political witch hunts of Sen. Joseph McCarthy, to stifle leftists and liberals by labeling them as subversives" is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
What did Joseph McCarthy's activities have to do with Ike's putting "In God we trust" on coins and "under God" in the pledge of allegiance? - Nothing!
This is a thinly veiled attempt to associate the In God We Trust folks with an infamous and in this case irrelevant political figure.
In my view HB City Council and your otherwise pretty good paper have fatter fish to fry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To state that &#8220;President Eisenhower signed a bill that officially adopted the words “In God We Trust” as the national motto. The action was part of a nationwide movement, previously featuring the political witch hunts of Sen. Joseph McCarthy, to stifle leftists and liberals by labeling them as subversives&#8221; is a bit of a stretch, don&#8217;t you think?<br />
What did Joseph McCarthy&#8217;s activities have to do with Ike&#8217;s putting &#8220;In God we trust&#8221; on coins and &#8220;under God&#8221; in the pledge of allegiance? - Nothing!<br />
This is a thinly veiled attempt to associate the In God We Trust folks with an infamous and in this case irrelevant political figure.<br />
In my view HB City Council and your otherwise pretty good paper have fatter fish to fry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Dana Cooked? by Dean Livingston</title>
		<link>http://ocvoice.wordpress.com/2008/03/01/is-dana-cooked/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Livingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie Cook is the representative that we need. Bobble-head Dana Rohrabacher has nodded yes to Repukian Bush's desires for way too long. Anyone who thinks global warming is due to Dinosaur farts needs to be removed from any position representing concerned people. Good luck to Debbie Cook. I, for one, will help all I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie Cook is the representative that we need. Bobble-head Dana Rohrabacher has nodded yes to Repukian Bush&#8217;s desires for way too long. Anyone who thinks global warming is due to Dinosaur farts needs to be removed from any position representing concerned people. Good luck to Debbie Cook. I, for one, will help all I can.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tipping Point by Dean Livingston</title>
		<link>http://ocvoice.wordpress.com/tipping-point/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Livingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extraordinary Kudos to Tipping Point's Vern Nelson. For the longest time, I have been reading O.C.Voice with interest but something was lacking...a sense of understanding of the world and it's effect on Huntington Beach. Vern Nelson has provided that with a viewpoint which reflects my "flaming liberal" proclivities.  Pictures of our honored dead soldiers killed in Iraq returning home in their flag-draped coffins have been suppressed. 

This does not make me proud to think that their deaths are no longer honored. Every effort is being made by this bestial administration to forget them. The carnage in Iraq is the result of just two "men" and a spineless congress to satisfy their lust for blood, bravado, and false honor. The deeply sorrowful convergence of the fifth anniversary of the Iraq war and the obscene event of the 4000th fallen U.S. soldier in Iraq has come and gone. Candles are lit and vigils held in thousands of homes across this country every evening. The meaning and value of sacrifice and the chorus of despairing whispers, wails, and anger are carried on the wind sweeping across the plains of our country.

All the new crosses of this war are silent witnesses to the failure of  our "leader" thugs to protect our soldiers from egregious, wanton, and strutting war making. In cold silence, many a mother can be seen escorting their grandson or grandaughter to visit their father's grave. The children somberly walk around the gravesite of their father trying to remember when he was alive and the fun they had. In their moment of transcendent visitation, no one can look at the children without great despair and aching love. No one can ever speak to them of the horror and lost hopes foisted on them in this criminally conceived war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extraordinary Kudos to Tipping Point&#8217;s Vern Nelson. For the longest time, I have been reading O.C.Voice with interest but something was lacking&#8230;a sense of understanding of the world and it&#8217;s effect on Huntington Beach. Vern Nelson has provided that with a viewpoint which reflects my &#8220;flaming liberal&#8221; proclivities.  Pictures of our honored dead soldiers killed in Iraq returning home in their flag-draped coffins have been suppressed. </p>
<p>This does not make me proud to think that their deaths are no longer honored. Every effort is being made by this bestial administration to forget them. The carnage in Iraq is the result of just two &#8220;men&#8221; and a spineless congress to satisfy their lust for blood, bravado, and false honor. The deeply sorrowful convergence of the fifth anniversary of the Iraq war and the obscene event of the 4000th fallen U.S. soldier in Iraq has come and gone. Candles are lit and vigils held in thousands of homes across this country every evening. The meaning and value of sacrifice and the chorus of despairing whispers, wails, and anger are carried on the wind sweeping across the plains of our country.</p>
<p>All the new crosses of this war are silent witnesses to the failure of  our &#8220;leader&#8221; thugs to protect our soldiers from egregious, wanton, and strutting war making. In cold silence, many a mother can be seen escorting their grandson or grandaughter to visit their father&#8217;s grave. The children somberly walk around the gravesite of their father trying to remember when he was alive and the fun they had. In their moment of transcendent visitation, no one can look at the children without great despair and aching love. No one can ever speak to them of the horror and lost hopes foisted on them in this criminally conceived war.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Community Voices by Molly Murphy</title>
		<link>http://ocvoice.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/community-voices/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Molly Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly oppose Mandatory Spay/Neuter, although I'm not a breeder.  In fact, the last dog we added to our family came from a shelter.  Mr. Bohr addresses 5 reasons for opposing Mandatory Spay/Neuter (referred to as "kitchen sink" items) that clearly indicate a lack of understanding of this issue on his part.

Point #1:  Per Mr. Bohr, the fact that MSN is unenforceable and irresponsible owners will continue to be irresponsible is not valid because "you make it illegal to be irresponsible".  

Well, if this were true drunk driving, child abuse, murder, tax evasion and drug abuse would not be pervasive in our society.  All of the above are illegal AND irresponsible, yet clearly exist.

Point #2:  Service dogs/police dogs/show dogs will not be extinct because ALL are exempted under MSN legislation.  

To date, all proposed (and some passed) MSN legislation has not granted automatic and definite exemptions to the above categories of dogs.  Rather, complicated and convoluted criteria for exemption is written into the legislation, and the animal control authorities have the discretion of NOT granting intact licenses should they choose not to.

Point #3:  Per Mr. Bohr, opponents to MSN claim only old dogs and pit bulls exist in the shelter.

This is a clear misunderstanding of the opposition's point by Mr. Bohr.  The point being made is that in order to meet the public's demand for purebred dogs (especially rare breeds), responsible breeders MUST exist as these types of dogs will not be found at the local shelter.  While the shelter is a wonderful place to find a family pet, it does not meet the demand of those seeking most purebred dogs, especially puppies.

Point #4:  MSN is not "Nanny state" government; we are a community of laws for the better good.

"Community of Laws" for the better good is a euphemism for socialism.  The USA was built on personal liberties.  Enough said!

Point #5:  Mr. Bohr makes a reference to Michael Vick (convicted dog fighter) regarding those those feel their dogs are their personal property.

Crimes can be committed with personal property.  My car is considered my personal property, if I drive it into a crowd and kill people, should we enact legislation to make it illegal to own cars?  

Mr. Bohr has obviously bought the Animal Rights extremist movement hook, line and sinker.  It is up to us, the dog loving public, to NOT put legislators like this in office that threaten our rights to own and love dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly oppose Mandatory Spay/Neuter, although I&#8217;m not a breeder.  In fact, the last dog we added to our family came from a shelter.  Mr. Bohr addresses 5 reasons for opposing Mandatory Spay/Neuter (referred to as &#8220;kitchen sink&#8221; items) that clearly indicate a lack of understanding of this issue on his part.</p>
<p>Point #1:  Per Mr. Bohr, the fact that MSN is unenforceable and irresponsible owners will continue to be irresponsible is not valid because &#8220;you make it illegal to be irresponsible&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Well, if this were true drunk driving, child abuse, murder, tax evasion and drug abuse would not be pervasive in our society.  All of the above are illegal AND irresponsible, yet clearly exist.</p>
<p>Point #2:  Service dogs/police dogs/show dogs will not be extinct because ALL are exempted under MSN legislation.  </p>
<p>To date, all proposed (and some passed) MSN legislation has not granted automatic and definite exemptions to the above categories of dogs.  Rather, complicated and convoluted criteria for exemption is written into the legislation, and the animal control authorities have the discretion of NOT granting intact licenses should they choose not to.</p>
<p>Point #3:  Per Mr. Bohr, opponents to MSN claim only old dogs and pit bulls exist in the shelter.</p>
<p>This is a clear misunderstanding of the opposition&#8217;s point by Mr. Bohr.  The point being made is that in order to meet the public&#8217;s demand for purebred dogs (especially rare breeds), responsible breeders MUST exist as these types of dogs will not be found at the local shelter.  While the shelter is a wonderful place to find a family pet, it does not meet the demand of those seeking most purebred dogs, especially puppies.</p>
<p>Point #4:  MSN is not &#8220;Nanny state&#8221; government; we are a community of laws for the better good.</p>
<p>&#8220;Community of Laws&#8221; for the better good is a euphemism for socialism.  The USA was built on personal liberties.  Enough said!</p>
<p>Point #5:  Mr. Bohr makes a reference to Michael Vick (convicted dog fighter) regarding those those feel their dogs are their personal property.</p>
<p>Crimes can be committed with personal property.  My car is considered my personal property, if I drive it into a crowd and kill people, should we enact legislation to make it illegal to own cars?  </p>
<p>Mr. Bohr has obviously bought the Animal Rights extremist movement hook, line and sinker.  It is up to us, the dog loving public, to NOT put legislators like this in office that threaten our rights to own and love dogs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Community Voices by Katie</title>
		<link>http://ocvoice.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/community-voices/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking people's property without due process of law is considered to still be UN-Constitutional!  Pets are property - even tho PETA and H$U$ would like that to change!  As property, it it up to the owner and the animal's vet to decide if and when to castrate or hysterectomy!  A politico has NO business making that decision - that's basically illegal - as it's practicing medicine without a license!  

No - Keith - your area does NOT have a problem.  In fact - have you seen this storyhttp://www.cna.com.tw/cnaeng/EnglishTopNews/TopNewsDetail.aspx?strTopNewsDate=&#38;TopNewsSerialnum=677&#38;strTopNewsID=200804020050
 - - appalling!!!!!  : (

How come - if there's such an overabundance of dogs here - we have groups "rescuing" disabled ones in Taiwan and bringing them here????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking people&#8217;s property without due process of law is considered to still be UN-Constitutional!  Pets are property - even tho PETA and H$U$ would like that to change!  As property, it it up to the owner and the animal&#8217;s vet to decide if and when to castrate or hysterectomy!  A politico has NO business making that decision - that&#8217;s basically illegal - as it&#8217;s practicing medicine without a license!  </p>
<p>No - Keith - your area does NOT have a problem.  In fact - have you seen this storyhttp://www.cna.com.tw/cnaeng/EnglishTopNews/TopNewsDetail.aspx?strTopNewsDate=&amp;TopNewsSerialnum=677&amp;strTopNewsID=200804020050<br />
 - - appalling!!!!!  : (</p>
<p>How come - if there&#8217;s such an overabundance of dogs here - we have groups &#8220;rescuing&#8221; disabled ones in Taiwan and bringing them here????</p>
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